What difference does that make?? I'm saying I disagree with his view on the penalty. It wasn't a penalty in my view and for the whistler to agree with Don & VAR it is baffling to me.
I don't think they are the same.. The sending off the Dundee player is running towards the ball and cuts across the Rangers player who clips him. Correct decision. I've watched the penalty incident a good 20 odd times and the Rangers winger throws his legs erratically into the Dundee player and intimates contact. If anything its a yellow for simulation because that's what it was. The Dundee attacker didn't initiate any contact for the sending off. But we can agree to disagree Graeme. Cheers 👍
I have to agree with Steven Walls on this. Gassama initiates contact with the Dundee player and has conned the officials if you could call it that. I'm very surprised at the Yorkshire whistler agreeing with this or maybe I'm not the fact he's an ex referee. I don't know how VAR can look at this and still award a penalty. That's more alarming to me.
The guy has, by all accounts, no interest in Scottish football and he's being asked to give his opinion, as an independent expert, on whether the big decisions referees and VAR make are correct and he's said this one was. Do we ditch the YW and replace him with someone that only agrees with our views as Celtic fans?
Is that not the whole point though? We all know a lot of officials are of Rangers persuasion. Alan Morrisons talks about patterns of assistance for one team all the time which this decision is in my view. Rangers get these decisions when they need it most. 1 nil down with minutes to go.
Ask him how the linesman at the Dundee match ..looking straight at Dessers being offside, never flagged for offside once the move had finished & VAR did it’s job despite the linesman doing what can only be classed as cheating .
Could we ask him about Beatons missing of the Aberdeen hand ball that led to an Aberdeen player getting a shot off that Kasper had to save? If from the resultant corner kick Aberdeen had scored, surely this hand ball should be considered as influencing the play and be reviewed by VAR? I find it astonishing that Beaton failed to see it....is this just another "honest mistake"?
What a complete waste of time this is. No mention of gassama grabbing the defenders shorts and pulling him in and then initiates the contact. It's not even a coming together
Sorry Steven but I don't think this is quite in the HB group spirit. I'm sure Alan has invested a fair amount of time and effort into getting the YW to do these reviews and they're done purely on the evidence he's given. Like you, I didn't think there was much in the incident but an actual expert has given his independent view on it and said the decision was correct so that is what I take away from it.
If I've misread what you meant then hands up and I'll apologise but we can't think our version of events is always right, especially after hearing from someone with the knowledge and experience of the YW. I thought that was kinda the point of the bit!
What difference does that make?? I'm saying I disagree with his view on the penalty. It wasn't a penalty in my view and for the whistler to agree with Don & VAR it is baffling to me.
I thought the incidents were very similar. Attacker cuts across the defender and goes down. That's what your taught to do. Let's agree to disagree?
I don't think they are the same.. The sending off the Dundee player is running towards the ball and cuts across the Rangers player who clips him. Correct decision. I've watched the penalty incident a good 20 odd times and the Rangers winger throws his legs erratically into the Dundee player and intimates contact. If anything its a yellow for simulation because that's what it was. The Dundee attacker didn't initiate any contact for the sending off. But we can agree to disagree Graeme. Cheers 👍
I have to agree with Steven Walls on this. Gassama initiates contact with the Dundee player and has conned the officials if you could call it that. I'm very surprised at the Yorkshire whistler agreeing with this or maybe I'm not the fact he's an ex referee. I don't know how VAR can look at this and still award a penalty. That's more alarming to me.
The guy has, by all accounts, no interest in Scottish football and he's being asked to give his opinion, as an independent expert, on whether the big decisions referees and VAR make are correct and he's said this one was. Do we ditch the YW and replace him with someone that only agrees with our views as Celtic fans?
Is that not the whole point though? We all know a lot of officials are of Rangers persuasion. Alan Morrisons talks about patterns of assistance for one team all the time which this decision is in my view. Rangers get these decisions when they need it most. 1 nil down with minutes to go.
Which is why he uses someone with no skin in the game. Did you think the red card decision was correct?
Ask him how the linesman at the Dundee match ..looking straight at Dessers being offside, never flagged for offside once the move had finished & VAR did it’s job despite the linesman doing what can only be classed as cheating .
Could we ask him about Beatons missing of the Aberdeen hand ball that led to an Aberdeen player getting a shot off that Kasper had to save? If from the resultant corner kick Aberdeen had scored, surely this hand ball should be considered as influencing the play and be reviewed by VAR? I find it astonishing that Beaton failed to see it....is this just another "honest mistake"?
What a complete waste of time this is. No mention of gassama grabbing the defenders shorts and pulling him in and then initiates the contact. It's not even a coming together
Sorry Steven but I don't think this is quite in the HB group spirit. I'm sure Alan has invested a fair amount of time and effort into getting the YW to do these reviews and they're done purely on the evidence he's given. Like you, I didn't think there was much in the incident but an actual expert has given his independent view on it and said the decision was correct so that is what I take away from it.
If I've misread what you meant then hands up and I'll apologise but we can't think our version of events is always right, especially after hearing from someone with the knowledge and experience of the YW. I thought that was kinda the point of the bit!
Hi Jonathan
This falls between the cracks as it wasn't a penalty, goal allowed/disallowed, red card incident.
Agree it was astonishing and it does reveal a loophole in the current laws as you point out.
Unfortunately i cannot get the YW to review every foul / incident on the off chance a goal may be scored down the line.